5.18.2009

Jesse Ventura on 'The View' - Destroys Torture Arguments

Once again - a patriot steps forward to destroy the Demopublican misdirection we've all come to know. "Torture is torture" Jesse says - I AGREE.

Why so often in the media does this become a technical brain cramp? Jesse does a great job of deflecting the "Nancy Pelosi said this" and "so-and-so did that." He also easily dismisses arguments claiming waterboarding is effective as a truth-finding tool.

So sit back and watch a guy with guts and brains dice 'em and slice 'em. Thanks Jesse!

Yes! There is hope for America!



SO WHAT DO WE DO?????
LETS GET THE CONVERSATION STARTED

38 comments:

  1. What an inspiration this man is.

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  2. finally someone with balls, he is right on every issue, that is the only person who is critical on the issues and dont kiss ass

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  3. right on the money jesse, finally some one who isnt a brown nosing jackass, do you know how refreshing it is to hear someone in the media that makes sense? jesse you deserve thanks cause you let people know that savage, limbaugh, hannity and others are idiots who dont deserve a medium to spew their garbage, some tissue for that brown nose elisawretch? I AM BITTERBLOOD

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  4. Jesse...stay out of small planes. We need ya.

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  5. Thanks for the link.

    I'm a USN vet. When you enlist and take the oath you promise to defend the Contitution of the United States of America against all enemies both foreign and domestic." Jesse took the same oath as do Senators, Representatives, Judges and Presidents. Jesse knows that without the Constitution we are nothing. And once you take the oath you are a defender of the Constitution of the United States of America for life.

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  6. Jesse, you are THE MAN!! Does perky Liza Hassleback know how out of her league she is with Jesse? Does she understand how she comes off as a total zealot idiot? Does she care about either question? I'm sure not.

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  7. This guy is amazing! Love you Jesse!!!


    Paul/Ventura 2012

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  8. Jesse's always been a straight shooter and quite good at backing up his arguments.

    During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ~ George Orwell

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  9. I wasn't fond of Ventura for his 'personal profit' gig while governor of my state, but I have no reason to doubt what he has disclosed about C.I.A. infiltration of the State of Minnesota's government, and on this issue.

    Good on ya, Jesse, for kicking these neocon asses and taking names afterwards.

    keep it up! Keep kicking their teeth in until they have no teeth left to kick in, Jesse!

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  10. During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ~ George Orwell

    That's all that needs to be said, and this man is a real American Hero, a real patriot.

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  11. Someone needs to waterboard that blonde bitch so she'll shut the fuck up. She's like a prissy little teacher's-pet in 8th grade who the male teachers all spoil because she has pretty blonde hair---but she actually knows nothing, and is constantly a cheeleader for the most moronic shit imaginable.

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  12. I think the 'first time we learned about waterboarding' was after the Spanish American War when 'God' told McKinley to christianize the Catholic Phillipinos. This was ultimately denounced as torture by the press and public and abandoned as a tactic... until GWB came along. Jesse may have gotten a fact wrong, but he's still 100% on the money.

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  13. I for one disagree. That motherfucker wou not last a minute on the board before confessing to being Jesus Christ

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  14. He's for real. She, a card-carrying Twit.

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  15. She's on the show just for comic relief.

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  16. If Jesse had Dick on a waterboard that overaged coward would have to be defibbed from the frieght of seeing the board. G W, Dick, Condi, Rummy, Gonzo, and the whole lot of them are the most cowardly people to live in this nation since its creation. They should shamed publicly for their cowardice. Every American citizen should deny them food, shelter, support, words, acknowlegement of any kind. Americans should turn their backs to cowardly creatures of the Zionist 5th column. These Manchurian cadidates should simply be suicided and quickly.

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  17. He's the real deal. A true leader.

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  18. hey, I have the car battery to defib the son of a bitch with. I suggest that we hook one lead to his nut sack (with tweezers if necessary) and the other lead to his other 'dick' (again, tweezers probably required) and then we can spritz him down with salt water from a spray bottle, mixed with a little battery acid just to ensure it cuts thru his reptile scales.

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  19. That stupid cunt Hassleback thinks this is all about Democrat vs Republican. She really is that stupid. There she is talking to a certified INDEPENDENT, and she keeps harping the Republican party line, attacking Democrats. Who the fuck cares? It's about what is legal or not legal, and ALL of the persons involved in torture, from BOTH parties need to be prosecuted.

    Jesse Ventura, WE LOVE YOU!

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  20. We the American people are NOT Israel’s BITCH, Obama and Congress are

    F**K Israel
    Israel is NO Friend to America!!

    Congressional members with dual American / Israeli Citizenships are TRAITORS, they need to be lined up against a wall and SHOT!!

    Israel / Zionist Jews are the Blood Sucking Parasites of the World. They are nothing more then Leeches feeding on Humanity and sucking the life out of Mankind.
    The sooner this World is rid of them the better we all will be.

    “What’s the difference between an Israeli and a Catfish”?
    One’s a Scum Sucking Bottom Feeder and the other is a Fish.

    "Die You Scum Bastards, Die"

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  21. nader paul kucinich gravelMay 18, 2009, 8:22:00 PM

    gravel kucinich paul nader
    mckinney ventura too
    perot charts...
    RATM

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  22. OK ..the previous post with the guy ranting about Israel is probably most likely an op screwing around with this blog to eventually have it forced to shut down. It is so obvious by reading his comments like "The sooner this World is rid of them", that this guy is probably israeli or american op trying to make human rights activists look like anti-Semites so the gov can use that as a pretext to shut these types of sites down to quell political dissent. We are not anti-Semites. We do not hate Jews. I am a Jew and I do not agree with Isreali policies but i sure as hell don;t agree with the previous post becose it is counter productive and an ambush on all of us that are fighting to get the truth out. And I also think that non Jews have as much rights to criticize Israeli policies than anybody else. It is easy to pull out the "Antisemitism" card and throw it around recklessly and this is what the Israeli government and people involved in international corruption are doing. They are creating a new fascism that could spread fast.
    See! Let's not lower ourselves to these people's level. They are furious that there is growing numbers of people realizing how corruption is destroying lives and things like torture is just plain "torture"! that's it! There is no such thing as "enhanced interrogation"! That is "new speak" or packaging term to make it appealing and easy for the common dummy to digest. It is against the law and god forbid we will become a nation of tyrants if we again "slip" into this path towards fascism. remember, the German public was completely oblivious of what their government was up to and it soon became too late. They had already slipped.

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  23. We can't blame ALL Israeli's for the actions of the government of Israel - just like we can't blame ALL Americans for the actions of the government of the United States - which, unfortunately is torturing people with our money. I will say that so far, I disagree with ALL actions of the Israeli government.

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  24. actually I've seen that same "fuck israel" rant verbatim on so many blogs, it no doubt is a shill trying to incite a riot. I think Israel needs to be turned into radioactive colored glass if it keeps up this shit, but I'd rather see the peaceful jews in that country bring the transition there about without the necessity of wiping so many of them off the face of the earth to ensure some semblance of world peace.

    but yeah, I concur. you'll see that same exact stuff, verbatim, everywhere. most bloggers are too original to put canned spam like that in blog after blog after blog, verbatim.

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  25. by the way, on a different note, Sy Hersh hung the Benazir Bhutto assassination on Obombaton's new Afghanistan Czar, McChrystal. How much you want to bet that he threatened Obombaton with some of what Benazir got, by Cheney's orders?????

    bet MSM won't touch this truth with a ten foot Obombaton teleprompter, eh?

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  26. To all readers: I leave anti-Semitic and other hate comments on here for one reason: because I believe SO strongly in freedom of speech. Let'm have their say I figure - within reason - but LET IT BE KNOWN: there IS NO RACISM OF ANY KIND INTENDED HERE - but we must have an adult conversation. It's amazing to me that as I typed the comment at 08:51 in response to the Israeli-bashing comment someone else almost simultaneously was doing the exact same thing 08:48PM.

    Thanks all for participating and keeping the truth alive.

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  27. Beware of frauds on this blog posing as anti war activists that are posting violent comments against Israelis. They are not one of us. They are trying to shut us down by making us look like anti-Semites. Whoever monitors this blog should be wary of guys that write shit like the following:

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    "Anonymous said...
    We the American people are NOT Israel’s BITCH, Obama and Congress are
    F**K Israel
    Israel is NO Friend to America!!
    Congressional members with dual American / Israeli Citizenships are TRAITORS, they need to be lined up against a wall and SHOT!!
    Israel / Zionist Jews are the Blood Sucking Parasites of the World. They are nothing more then Leeches feeding on Humanity and sucking the life out of Mankind.
    The sooner this World is rid of them the better we all will be.
    “What’s the difference between an Israeli and a Catfish”?
    One’s a Scum Sucking Bottom Feeder and the other is a Fish.
    "Die You Scum Bastards, Die"
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    So here you will see that the guy that posted these comments is trying to sabotage. Watch out bloggers for people like this that come on your sites. They're monkey wrenchers and they are trying to get you eventually shut down through new government "anti-hate laws" that are going to target blogs and shut them down. Be very careful..

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  28. like I said, you see that same thing, the same paragraph over and over again, it is obvious that it's the u.s. government trying to poison the well so they can shut down the blog. fuck these government bastards, Jack Rabbit...

    you know what, if you aren't logging IP's for everyone I suggest you do it now. You'll be amazed at how many you find come from Langley, VA., and that's exactly where the disinformation machine is for the u.s. government.

    thanks, and keep the heads up, eh?

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  29. It is so obvious from the comments here, to me at least, that the good people of this world so far outnumber the bad ...

    Thanks to all commenters for helping to show that there is no racism ever intended here - rather - a strong respect for freedom of speech - yes at times taken advantage of by shills - but easily overwhelmed by the good folks who can have adult conversations about difficult topics.

    Thank you for ensuring these important points don't go unanswered.

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  30. Anonymous said...
    by the way, on a different note, Sy Hersh hung the Benazir Bhutto assassination on Obombaton's new Afghanistan Czar, McChrystal. How much you want to bet that he threatened Obombaton with some of what Benazir got, by Cheney's orders?????

    where does this info come from? why have we not seen it elsewhere? source please?

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  31. 'US special squad killed Benazir'
    Published: May 18, 2009

    NEW YORK (Online) - Former prime minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto was assassinated on the orders of the special death squad formed by former US vice-president Dick Cheney, which had already killed the Lebanese Prime Minister Rafique Al Hariri and the army chief of that country.
    The squad was headed by General Stanley McChrystal, the newly-appointed commander of US army in Afghanistan. It was disclosed by reputed US journalist Seymour Hersh while talking to an Arab TV in an interview.
    Hersh said former US vice-president Cheney was the chief of the Joint Special Operation Command and he clear the way for the US by exterminating opponents through the unit and the CIA. General Stanley was the in-charge of the unit.
    Seymour also said that Rafiq Al Hariri and the Lebanese army chief were murdered for not safeguarding the US interests and refusing US setting up military bases in Lebanon. Ariel Sharon, the then prime minister of Israel, was also a key man in the plot.
    A number of websites around the world are suspecting the same unit for killing of Benazir Bhutto because in an interview with Al-Jazeera TV on November 2, 2007, she had mentioned the assassination of Usama Bin Laden, Seymour said. According to BB, Umar Saeed Sheikh murdered Usama, but her words were washed out from the David Frosts report, he said.
    The US journalist opined that it might have been done on purpose because the US leadership did not like to declare Usama dead for in the case the justification of the presence of US army in Afghanistan could no more be there, hence no reason for operation against Taliban.
    On the other hand, the diplomatic analysts believe that BB murder is still a fable and it is for the reason Asif Zardari and other govt authorities are stressing UN probe in the murder case, also paying huge sums for it.
    Another website has disclosed that Benazir was put to death in order to roll back Pakistan nuclear programme and the take over its nukes and India, Israel and the US, were making hectic efforts to deprive Pakistan of its atomic capability so as to bring to under their control.

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  32. apparently Hersh is getting really close to something that the Psy Ops fuckers in the Pornogon really need to discredit or blow up.

    either this is really what has happened, regarding Bhutto's murder, or it's a very effectively concocted and released disinformation campaign aimed at destroying Hersh's credibility.

    the timing, relative to the escalation in Afghanistan and the drone murdering going on in Pakistan, destabilizing that country, is too 'uncanny' to be just a coincidence.

    either Hersh's digging leads to something much bigger than killing Bhutto for telling David Frost that Osama Been Decomposing was dead since 2002 (which, by the way, nullifies the U.S. excuses for being in Afghanistan in the first place) and they had to destroy Hersh's credibility, or there is likely some other reason that linkage of McChrystal to the murder team that Cheney ran illegally from the office of VICE dictator, had to be severed somehow.

    Something fishy is going on here that belies a much deeper story, and it's unclear exactly which of these hypotheses are, in-fact, correct.

    sorry to derail the Ventura torture thing, being that Cheney is tied to everything from 9/11 murder of american citizens, to nuclear weapons being flown at his order, it's kind of imperative not to automatically assume that Seymour Hersh's stories about Cheney's military hit team get diss'd here for not good reason other than a Pentagon Psy Op smear campaign against Hersh and the hit squad story about McChrystal, who did Cheney's bidding for him by murdering people in more than a dozen countries, inclusive of the United States, apparently.

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  33. Israel is the original home of the biblical Israelites. The current occupiers are European Caucasians. They are not descendants of the biblical Israelites. They are descended from Khazars. The Khazars were a powerful people who once ruled over portions of Russia and Eastern Europe. Their king declared that they religion was Judaism to stop the Christians and Muslims from trying to convert them.

    There is no doubt that Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of Euro-Asiatic Khazarians. They don't even look Semitic, they have high cheekbones, light skin and almond shaped eyes like Turkic/Mongol peoples, i.e. Huns, Turks, Avars, etc. Just look at Ashkenazi celebrities like Leonard Nimoy, Barbra Streisand, Mel Brooks, Sarah Silverman, Laura Silverman (a prime example of the Asiatic influence) Peter Falk, and many others. Do any of these people look the slightest bit Semitic? I don't think so, if you want to see what a Semitic person looks like, look at your average Arab, i.e. Tony Shaloub who plays Monk on TV.

    The people criticizing Israel’s policies are not being Anti-Semitic, because the occupiers of Israel are not Semitic. Israel is living off the wealth of other nations, including the USA. Israel is by definition a Parasite.

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  34. Sounds like the man is talking to a bunch of chickens.

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  35. at the risk of sounding like a wimp, I really don't give a shit whether it's a hassidic jew or a ashkenazi jew or a media mogul jew, a banker jew, or a larry silverman mass murdering jew. I kind of like the idea that criticism of Israeli policies, the kind that in 1948 created the situation with palestinians where suddenly a bunch of throw aways from mostly europe got to suddenly steal a bunch of turf of someone else's, and now we have to suck their dicks or kiss their collective yiddish asses because some other assholes think they are the CHOSEN ONES and spay-shul people.

    what I do think is relevant to this argument, is that a government, aka known as ISRAEL, with a thing called the Knesset, has the ability to control a place far far away from them that houses something like 300 million of it's own citizens, because it can, at will, phone tap congressmen and senators and perform illegal surveillance activities on the people in the bigger continent, and bilk money from them, and even attack them and blow up their buildings with powerful thermite explosives, and blame it on someone else so that the people in that bigger continent will live in paranoia and fear forever and keep forking over their kids for their wars, as well as their money.

    that's what concerns me. a jerk wad government that was created on some asshole's map, now is so powerful that it controls the nation of 300 million as easily as a small girl in Indochina controls a water buffalo with a small piece of rope as it follows behind her, obediently.

    something is wrong with this 'anti semite' label, in that for me, it's very easy to see how people have fucking had it with 'jews' but to some extent, the same people, like myself, don't hold this against every single jew everywhere on the earth, we only have a problem with the war mongering pricks in their government who foment war and evil and murder in the name of Israel.

    I guess, if you want to turn this one inside out, it's almost as stupid as calling people in the rest of the world, who condemn and object to the U.S. murder of innocent civilians, being real assholes because they don't like that, and now decry all AMERICANS AS MASS MURDERERS, when only a relatively small and greedy number of people in America are responsible for the murder. Would we call them ANTI AMERICAN for their criticism? right wing fucksticks with no brain would. I think the more reasonable thing to ask one's self is; "is it fair to condemn a whole race of people for what a small percentage of them do?" and the answer to that is simply; "NO IT IS NOT", even though for me, it's very hard not to just want to wipe every fucking jew off the face of the map for what the fuck they have allowed happen to my country, in their name.

    Is that fair? no. Is it rational and sane? absolutely it's not, but in a time and a place where one can clearly see that Israel is destroying the United States, and the United States, in turn, is destroying the rest of the world, would lead reasonable men and women elsewhere, that ISRAEL and AMERICA are both EVIL and need to be WIPED OFF THE MAP FOR THEIR MURDERING.

    everything gets pretty blurry depending on which side of the demarcation line you're on, now doesn't it?

    as for Israel, until the day comes when their government ceases to destroy my country, then yeah, I'm gonna advocate their total destruction because they've so destroyed everything in this nation by their meddling. And I can clearly see how people in Afghanistan and Iraq would think exactly the same of US here in America.

    uh oh, there's that demarcation line again. damned it.

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  36. I just fell in love..

    I hope Jessie isn't working,,,
    If presented with being the Whitehouse spokesman,,I hope he honors us and takes the job.

    Not only is he honest,,but he's smart and quick..

    America needs him,,,

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  37. the before last comment is the same jackass operative that posed as a shill yesterday. He is mixing his bait with our discourse and it is going to get us in trouble. I really suggest that you start tracking IP addresses in case you eventually have to deal with this. This is happening on hundreds of web sites that are fighting against torture and occupation in the middle east. These guys come on the blogs and pose as one of us and then write up their venomous BS to make us look like extremists. WE NEED TO START KEEPING AN EYE ON THIS and RETALIATE! EVERYONE EXPOSE these people and discredit their discourse AS SOON as they post! Otherwise it is going to KILL the cause and discredit ALL OF US...

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  38. I think we have to also be smart enough to not just arbitrarily limit free speech, but go in a direction of calling out what we think is not germane to the discussion and be very advised that there is a lot of IDF force personnel who's job is to go into blogs and poison the well so that the U.S. Congress and Senate get excerpts of it and then can justify the really draconian excuse of shutting down the internet.

    you all realize that at some point, this internet is going to go 'bye bye' anyway, don't you? they cannot allow a free speech zone they cannot control to exist, otherwise, the propaganda gets analyzed, the discussions occur, the discourse takes place, and the people figure out what is 'real' versus 'not real' here. I disagree about the RETALIATE message above, that's not warranted. What perhaps IS warranted, is that when you see a lot of verbatim posts in here or on other blog sites that look mighty familiar, you have to wonder why a blogger would be so lazy to cut and paste into so many sites, it almost defeats the purpose of being in the blogs in the first place if you're here for information interchange and discussions. Certainly the COINTELPRO and the PENTAGON psy ops, and the IDF trolls, all have penetrated the blogs, but as they are likely given directives about what key words to install and what kind of things to guarantee they publish in them, that's what makes it so easy to spot the 'cut and paste' crap they are shoving in here to discredit a site with.

    So, having laid all that out on the line, we need to start wondering if getting all freaked out, as in the above post, is really necessary, when in-fact, Jack Rabbit has a pretty good handle on it and keeps the sites he publishes his stuff on pretty squared away, even at the risk of not censoring the crap. We have to realize that no matter how immaculate we keep these blogs, the government will not allow the free discourse and information sharing they allow, and they will someday shut these all down using a different national security excuse even if they can't ramrod the A.I.P.A.C. shit down our throats. The IDF guys are not all so stupid, in other words, nor are the F.B.I. COINTELPRO fuckers or the Psy Ops turds. They're here to stay, and unfortunately, unless we all use our real names in here and our real locations, which again can be synthesized if you're really computer savvy and know how to use special proxy software as I have used as a test to see how good it is (hides your source IP) then you can get around almost any safeguard we propose.

    anyway, though I disagree'd with the above poster, I am not going to condemn he or she, but instead suggest that they realize that some of us don't have any use for Israel at all, inclusive of myself, but I don't necessarily poison everything I think or say to others, but I do reserve the right to say anything I wish about Israel without censorship, even if it is utterly repugnant to everyone else. Israel has been the bane of the U.S. for a long long time and it's hoped someday enough people will recognize it for what it is, and INSIST that it be disconnected from the United States governmental processes as totally as can be expected, under new and enforced ESPIONAGE LAWS THAT FORBID FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS FROM INFLUENCING THIS ONE!

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