"I'm looking for a Christian"


There is a story about Diogenes the Cynic being asked why he was carrying a lantern in broad daylight - his answer:  "I'm looking for a human being."  If Diogenes were here today I wonder if he might say "I'm looking for a true Christian."

I am not an expert in religion by any stretch - and I should be clear that I don't want to be.  I've read about Christ - directly without interpretation.  I did a lot of daydreaming during my church years and wasn't listening to whatever it was the nuns and priests were babbling.   This was part of my upbringing as part of the culture I was raised in.  Sunday school and church, I guess, were there to help instill morals and proper values.  I wonder what the hell happened?

If the church was doing its job all these years what has happened to all its disciples?  It kinda makes one wonder.  I, like Diogenes, am looking for a Christian.  One of my friends mentioned a quote from Ghandi:  "I like your Christ, but not your Christians."

I am surrounded by so-called Christians all the time since I live South in the Bible Belt.  I didn't grow up here and although having spent much of my life south of the Mason-Dixon line wasn't aware of the deep belief system here in southern Dixie.  It is surprising how closed-minded Christians are - and contradictory to boot.  Thank God I grew up in an area and around people more open-minded than those whose minds are held captive by the various churches here in the South.  Is keeping the flock hypnotized in fear a Christian value?

I don't mean to be mean or to pick a fight with Christians - after all I don't want to be murdered or burned at the stake or drowned like a witch - I only want to make clear some of the contradictions I see and cannot understand.

How is it possible to be a follower of Christ yet in the same breath make claims that it is OK to murder people who claim to believe differently in some other God?

Tithing?  What ever happened to the bake sale?

When I think of "tithing" (giving money to the church for nothing) I think of opening my own church.  What a profitable enterprise.  Think about it - like the Obama campaign - it is easy to sell hope because you never have to pay up.  You can take money and give hope all day long at 100 % profits.  You never have to worry about an audit because the auditor will be bound to the same belief system as the rest of the flock.  What a racket.

I've often wondered what the church has done with all this money they collect for nothing?  Every day Christians remind me that unless I make some stupid-ass public declaration in front of other people of my belief in their system I will go to hell.  If that is true - why couldn't they - if they really cared about me - use some of that money to pay God to keep me out of that furnace?  Maybe simply asking these questions will doom me to a furnace here on Earth - with a chance to be burned by Christians?

I hear much about so-called "moral relativism" from Christians - who are the biggest violators of this supposedly terrible sin.  Rather than abiding by their own "laws" like "thou shalt not kill" and "thou shalt not take other peoples mineral rights" Christians are led by holy men to do just that.  Christian kids are raised to hate the offspring of human beings who had the misfortune to grow up in an equally rotten parallel universe - where other holy men sell another faith to their kids teaching them to hate Christians.  Neither side will "turn the other cheek" because that would mean peace - something none of them really want.

Americans - and Christians -and Jews and Muslims too -  seem to love war.  America has been at war essentially forever.  It never ends.  This nation floats on an ocean of hypocrisy and debt.  Nothing is really as it appears - but there is some progress.  In today's America we've finally stopped some hypocrisy - like pretending that we care about peace and that this war will ever end.  Like the NAZIs before us from which we've taken our game-plan, we openly in broad daylight talk about killing forever.  It is manly these days to worship weapons of war - with everyone in the group always agreeing how neat this tank or jet or machine gun is.  There are endless newsreels from past wars and conflicts - mostly showing these weapons firing or their operators firing them.  There are not anywhere near as many films of the victims getting hit with the bullets.  They will show you a coupla' dead bodies here or there when it suits the agenda of those pumping out the propaganda - but for the most part our military machine is openly glorified.  Is militarism a Christian value?  Where did Christ discuss hosing people down with machine gun bullets?

Americans now believe, thanks to her dear leaders, that there is no other way to live than in a war economy.  We don't make much worth a hoot in this country although good people are trying to fix that.  Even the plastic bags everybody uses to bring their plastic stuff home from Big-Mart are cheapening to where the bags are falling apart before the customer has a chance to get to the car.  I should know as I've been re-purposing these bags as small trash bags for the last few years as I hate buying garbage bags.  Our greedy business leaders will always think of a way to shave a few dollars more to stuff into their bank account.  Who cares if the customer drops the junk on the way to the car?  Then they can come back in and buy more!

Are these Christian values - selling inferior or designed-to-fail products to the masses?  Or are there no Christians working in high-level positions in our corporations ?  Somehow I don't think it matters - Christians for the most part are Christians in name only.  Who cares about the examples Christ set?  Christ didn't work for a corporation and didn't use shopping bags.  What does selling a decent product and providing good service have to do with Christianity?

We've pissed so much money away on these wars it is surprising to me that the public doesn't notice.  I've met a few people who work very long hours six days a week who had their tax refund confiscated at the last minute for this reason or that.  It's "funny" - here are some folks who've been looking forward to that few thousand bucks to replace the worn-out jalopy they depend on in this freezing icy weather to keep the money coming in to the family - a car that just barely gets them to work - and the government grabbed the loot.  Rest assured taxpayer - the money has been well spent on munitions to murder non-believers somewhere else in the world who's leaders are selling them the same hate wrapped in different packaging.  Is hating Muslims a Christian value?  Is teaching kids to hate a Christian value?  Is scaring people a Christian value?  Is spreading terror and fear a Christian value?

There was a time when U.S. leaders got back to their herd from time to time to remind them why we are all chipping in to win the war.  This hypocrisy has also, thankfully, ended.  No longer pretending that there is any intention to ever end the "long war" we started by bombing ourselves on September 11, 2001, our propaganda machine simply fans the flames of fear and hatred.  There is always someone with a turban hiding in a cave somewhere up to no good.  Americans everywhere can be found publicly pissing their pants around the coffee machine and water cooler.  They talk in circles as each speculates about this or that non-issue fed to them by the corporate death-machine.  Forget ending the bloodshed - there is simply too much money to be had.  No - not for you or me - for the media, the manufacturers and the politicians.  Possibly the churches too huh?  I wonder if any of those robed ones are on the take - after all it is their flocks that are participating in these bloodbaths.

I saw a news article the other day - probably put out by some Republican propaganda outlet to bash  Obama for a bit.  Their complaint?  That Obama doesn't see an Islamic terror threat.  They proceeded to belittle him with the standard political propaganda expected from those wishing to plant a Bush back in the White house.  News flash:  I don't see an Islamic terror threat either - in fact all of the Muslims I've met so far have been pretty decent - since I met them here in the states and they were abiding by our laws.  None of them shot me or attempted to bomb my house - I think they were busy running their business or getting the kids to school.  With all the government peeping toms and perverts spying on all the Muslims in this country you would think they could have turned up more evidence over the last fourteen years other than zero.  The only "plots" discovered were patsies set up by our own agencies.

The terror threat is a maniacal plan to keep religous people everywhere shooting each other.  Religious people do what their leaders tell them.  The proof is easy to see - just watch them all throw money at their churches.  You would think these rich churches could spare a minute or two to remind their flock that torture is a sick, twisted and perverted crime against humanity.  But they won't because being the hypocrites they are - they revert back to their own type of moral relativism - rather than sticking with the fake absolute morals they pretend.  I'm sure they will knock off the hypocrisy eventually like the government of the US did - and openly admit they love a good Crusade.

The government and the churches are playing the same game - spreading fear and hate and superstition with no facts to present whatsoever.  This is a profitable enterprise as it exists without costs and brings the highest profits and mind-controlled robots to do ones bidding.

I'm still looking for a Christian.


  1. Christian Virtue Requires Hatred Of Judaism, satanism

    U say u're "still looking for a Christian." And u ask, above, "[i]s hating Muslims a Christian value? Is teaching kids to hate a Christian value? Is scaring people a Christian value? Is spreading terror and fear a Christian value?"

    Thus one goes to New Test. to find what Christ said, what Christian value(s) are--and we see Christ = TRUTH, the only way to Godly happiness (Gosp. JOHN 14:6).

    And yes, it's Christian value to hate kikes (also known as Jews), these the satanic worshippers of lies (JOHN 8:44). Note that Christianity and the world prospered under Christian hatred of Jews, in accord w. worship of TRUTH. And as Christians forgot this necessary hatred of Jews, Christianity became corrupt and perverted--as we see now.

    But what happened?--Christianity began to be thought of as mere version/variation of Judaism (satanism). What was thought to be common to them, Christianity and Judaism, "faith," was then used to undermine and subvert Christianity as it subverted foremost Christian ideal of TRUTH.

    For Christian "faith" only properly means LOYALTY, while Jew lies require that false "faith" understood as beleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevin'. And it began to be this corrupt beleeeeeeevin to be adopted by Christianity

    Thus present day "Christianity" of establishment sort is really Judeo-Christianity (JC--see Whtt.org and TruthTellers.org for best expo) which intimidates all the other "Christians."

    So what's necessary remedy?--the proper understanding of Christianity, worship of truth, and hence the reinstatement of anti-semitism, Jews leaders of satanists, anti-Christianity, and anti-reason, anti-humanity, etc.

    1. Apsterian,

      I'm interested in the part you mentioned about Judeo-Christianity. I'd never really given that any thought until you mentioned it - aren't the two mutually exclusive?


    2. Yes, they're mutually exclusive, just as u say--ck my citations given in the note.

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  2. To find a true Christian, talk to a MUSLIM

    1. That's interesting: but what would a mooselman be able to tell us?

      If I understand Islam correctly, we're to beleeeeeeeeeeeeeev in Allah--why?--because we must obey Allah's commands. Correct me if I'm wrong.

      Christianity, on the other hand, is far more sublimely rational, urging us to heed TRUTH (= Christ).

    2. The Good news of a new-born child

      “(And mention) when the angels said, ‘O Mary, indeed God gives you the good news of a word from Him, whose name will be the Messiah Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honor in this world and in the Hereafter, and of those who are near to God.’ ‘He will speak to the people in the cradle, and in old age, and he will be of the righteous.’ She said, ‘My Lord, how can I have a son when no man has touched me.’ He said, ‘So (it will be,) for God creates what He wants. When He decides something, He only says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is. And He will teach him the Book and wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel. And (will make him) a messenger to the Children of Israel (saying), ‘Indeed I have come to you with a sign from your Lord. I make for you out of clay the likeness of a bird, then breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by the permission of God. And I heal the blind and the leper, and I bring the dead to life by the permission of God. And I inform you of what you eat and what you store in your houses. Surely, there is a sign for you in that, if you are believers. And (I have come) confirming the Torah that was (revealed) before me, and to allow you some of what was forbidden to you. And I have come to you with a proof from your Lord, so fear God and obey me. Indeed, God is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. This is the straight path.” (Quran 3:45-51)

      “And mention in the Book (the story of) Mary, when she withdrew from her family to an eastern place. And she placed a screen to seclude herself from them. Then We sent to her Our angel (Gabriel), and he took the form of a well-created man before her. She said, “Indeed I seek refuge with the Most Merciful from you, if you do fear God.”[1] (The angel) said, ‘I am only the messenger of your Lord to give to you (the news of) a pure boy.’ She said, ‘How can I have a son, when no man has touched me (in marriage), and I am not a prostitute?’ He said, So your Lord said, ‘It is easy for Me. And We will make him a sign to people and a mercy from Us. And it is a matter (already) decided.’”[2] (Quran 19:16-21)

      The Immaculate Conception

      “And she who guarded her chastity, so We breathed (a spirit) into her through Our angel, and We made her and her son (Jesus) a sign for the worlds.”[3] (Quran 21:91)

      The Birth of Jesus

      “So she conceived him, and she withdrew with him to a remote place. And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a palm tree. She said, ‘I wish I had died before this, and had been long forgotten. [Mary was worried that people would think badly of her as she was not married.] Then (baby Jesus) called her from below her, saying, ‘Don’t be sad. Your Lord has provided a stream under you.’ Shake the trunk of the palm tree towards you, and it will drop on you fresh ripe dates. So eat and drink and be happy. And if you see any human, then say, ‘Indeed I have vowed a fast to the Most Merciful so I will not speak to any human today.’ Then she carried him and brought him to her people. They said, ‘O Mary, indeed you have done a great evil.’ ‘O sister of Aaron, your father was not an evil man, and your mother was not a fornicator.’ So she pointed to him. They said, ‘How can we speak to a child in the cradle?’ (Jesus) said, ‘Indeed, I am a slave of God. He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet.[4] And He has made me blessed wherever I may be, and He has enjoined on me prayer and charity as long as I remain alive. And (has made) me kind to my mother, and did not make me arrogant or miserable. And peace be upon me the day I was born, and the day I will die, and the day I will be raised alive.’” (Quran 19:22-33)

      “Indeed, Jesus is like Adam in front of God. He created him from dust, then said to him, ‘Be,’ and he was.”[5] (Quran 3:59)

      “And We made the son of Mary and his mother a sign, And We gave them refuge and rest on a high ground with flowing water.”[6] (Quran 23:50)

    3. Christianity: Appeals To Human Reason

      Average Joe: all u've given for us is RECITATION, fm the Quran, evidently--just a bunch of assertion. U give us no conclusion of ur own.

      All Islam does is attempt to patronize and incorporate Christianity without really understanding it. Islam is actually just a reversion back to Judaic-style "beleeeeeeeeeeevin"--why "believe"?--merely because Allah and now Mohammed say so--whereas Christianity appeals to reason.

      Thus Christians hold Christ is GOD the Son--NOT merely some prophet. Thus Christ = TRUTH, while God the Father is happiness, thus TRUTH = happiness.

      And when one considers the THIRD person, the Holy Spirit, most sublime reason and honesty, which renders TRUTH, hence happiness, one understands God and Godliness in all full-ness.

      Islam simply makes same old commands of the Old Testament, by-passing and ignoring reason and the Holy Spirit.


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