4.10.2009

The FBI is AWOL on 911 Forensics

UPDATE AUGUST 18, 2009 Attorney: FBI trained NJ blogger to incite others
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The FBI: cast on TV as a legendary law enforcement agency. The best of the best - at least we are told. Heck they can solve any crime, even if there are only traces of evidence left, like hair, saliva, fingerprints - they are the ones we Americans turn to when all we have are straws to grasp for evidence...well ... that is ... as long as the evidence discussed has nothing to do with the 911 attacks on America! Whenever the topic turns to the discussion of evidence regarding the 911 attacks the FBI is AWOL (Absent WithOut Leave) - suddenly unable to comprehend concepts like conspiracy, or analysis of crime scene evidence. For some reason our dauntless FBI has better things to do, like chasing pirates off the horn of Africa. From the article:
"FBI spokesman Richard Kolko described the bureau's hostage negotiating team as "fully engaged" with the military in strategizing ways to retrieve the ship's captain and secure the Maersk Alabama and its roughly 20-member U.S. crew.
...Other analysts say the U.S. will be reluctant to use force as long as one of its citizens remains hostage. French commandos, for example, have mounted two military operations against pirates once the ransom had been paid and its citizens were safe."

Contrast that with the deep concern for American citizens' lives of the FBI Hostage Roasting Team in Waco, Texas , USA. From the article:
"...at Waco, where the FBI oversaw the largest single spasm of slaughter of civilians by law enforcement in US history, when nearly a hundred Branch Davidians died amid an assault by tanks, flame-throwers and snipers."

Somehow this contradiction in actions of the FBI triggers my logic circuits to doubt that the actions of the FBI are based on their concern for American citizens' lives. Their words mean nothing - just look at their actions.

What is the role of the FBI? They make grandiose claims on their website regarding their expertise in solving crimes - especially regarding trace evidence with explosives...that is... as long as it has nothing to do with the 911 attacks. In the case of 911 the FBI is blind, and even if they could see, their actions demonstrate that they have no interest in the evidence remaining from the attacks - they have better things to do; like brainwashing children on their website into thinking it's cool to wear fake mustaches so they can deceive others. I don't know what the reason is for the fake mustaches - it's probably classified information. So who can we rely on to examine the forensic evidence left over from the attacks of 9-11-01?

Enter Dr. Jones and Company - scientists interested in finding the truth. I urge every reader to digest the rigorous scientific examination of the dust remaining from the 911 attacks CLICK FOR SCIENTIFIC PAPER HERE. Make sure to click the "Active Thermitic Material... " link on the page referenced. Why hasn't the FBI done this work? Why isn't the FBI examining this landmark study? Perhaps their agenda differs from the agenda of Americans interested in finding the truth regarding the perpetrators of the 911 attacks? I cannot think of any other reason they are AWOL regarding 911.

I think it is important to point out that the analysis of the WTC dust linked above MUST be answered by SCIENTISTS. A failure to examine this evidence is inexcusable, unpatriotic, cowardly, unscientific, and most of all, a betrayal of every American predecessor that fought for American ideals. Perhaps silence really is agreement.

I wonder if there is a lesson to be learned by all Americans during this festive tax season by the mission statement of the explosives branch of the FBI, our dutiful public servants:

"Perform chemical analyses to determine the type of explosives used in an improvised explosive or incendiary device; and
Assist investigators in determining if debris from a fire of suspicious origin has an accelerant present."

Perhaps American citizens should realize the FBI really doesn't do what they say they do, unless, that is, they are asked to support an agenda that has nothing to do with securing America, but more with securing American Empire? If you think that's a stretch, I'll leave you with the FBI mission statement , revamped for the New World Order and the Global War on Terror whatever the hell that means:

"Our mission is to help protect you, your communities, and your businesses from the most dangerous threats facing our nation—from international and domestic terrorists to spies on U.S. soil…from cyber villains to corrupt government officials…from mobsters to violent gangs…from child predators to serial killers. Learn more here about our work with law enforcement and intelligence partners across the country and around the globe."

Remember - they do all of the above - unless the crime involves September 11, 2001. That is something to think about . That is something that should make every American citizen question where our "public servants" are leading us.

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UPDATE APRIL 10, 2009 Chips in WTC dust show nanothermate
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---------update Video from Danish TV as U.S. Corporate Media remains blind-----------

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UPDATE APRIL 13, 2009 Navy, not FBI, negotiates pirate situation.
UPDATE APRIL 13, 2009 Handbook of Forensic Science
UPDATE APRIL 17, 2009 Veterans Focus of FBI Extremist Probe
UPDATE JULY 9, 2009 Scientists Discover Both Residues
And Unignited Fragments
Of Nano-Engineered Thermitic Pyrotechnics
In Debris From the Twin Towers

Researcher Steven Hatfill wins settlement in anthrax case

UPDATE JULY 28, 2009 HAL TURNER A SNITCH FOR THE FBI

61 comments:

  1. lots of GOP trolls trying desperately to debunk this on a number of sites. most noticeably, it's in the Deseret News in Utah, the same right wing bastion of Bush supporters that loved the fact that B.Y.U. 'fired' Jones for his evidence of the 'INSIDE JOB' that has so far, been indisputably on target and forensically correct.

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  2. oh, one more thing; "Robert Mueller, you need to fucking RESIGN!!!"

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  3. I'm not defending the F.B.I. but the fact is, I talked to an FBI agent and retired FBI official about the 9-11 attacks and he exclaimed they know "exactly who did it" but that it was CLASSIFIED under a despicable national security directive from the Pentagon.

    http://www.motherofallscandals.com

    Fact is the FBI is both a wimp, and a criminal outfit which is too often subverted by agents of foreign governments.

    The FBI could have absolutely brought forensic criminal charges against the Zionists and Israelis who did 9-11, instead they abandoned the investigation, cowards to the very end.

    Maybe not as sinister as we're led to believe, but cowards and blackmailed pubes who probably should retire is exactly what they are.

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  4. Is there a difference between an American Revolutionary War soldier sacrificing his life for American ideals and a U.S. Government Employee/Drone/FBI "employee" sacrificing his mortgage payment near Washington, D.C. for American ideals or are things different now? By different I mean that working for the FBI means following orders rather than following the Constitution of the U.S., or following one's moral values, or following one's inner voice that tells them the difference between right and wrong?
    I wonder if the Federal employees who are hiding from this problem realize that when the truth comes out, which is closer to the event horizon than they think, that they will suddenly be asked to explain their silence and lack of action? That people will ask them why they did NOTHING while American values were abandoned for medieval torture techniques? I ponder their predicament, acting tough with a gun and badge while standing around doing zip-shit while American burns? I wonder if they can rationalize putting mortgage payment above truth?

    Is American a society of actor-consumers or citizens? Perhaps the cream of society - the FBI - can show us the mettle of what it really means to be an American. Don't hold your breath. It seems the FBI is good at two things - ROASTING AND BOASTING.

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  5. Until just recently, I did not know that this man had an avid militia movement following prior to 9/11. Which makes this You Tube link even more fascinating:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGtOFudmHG8

    It was easy to predict that America would experience some typical terrorist incident in 2001 or 2002. To get a Bruce Willis movie going, you'd have to beat a bajillion safeguards.

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  6. FBI sucks for the most part. Robert Mueller ran away from his duty to protect the American people when he received the Anthrax letter.

    It seems in the FBI putting your job and "prestige" comes first before putting the safety of the American people....at least the FBI directors are that way, who answered to Chertoff and that Zionist idiot Tom Ridge.

    Slander words which can ruin someone's career and put their safety in jeopardy as well as upset certain "foreign relations" are apparently what counts and where the buck stops with the FBI.

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  7. It's almost 8 years since the 911 attacks.Too late,even if the Israel firsters are caught red handed. Just as the USS Liberty navy ship was attacked by Israel in 1997 and exposed LBJ as a accomplus--still Israel and the Jews are Amrica's chosen people. If if Israel decides to send all it's nukes blazing onto America--the all Jewish media will consider it as a god sent blessing.
    Forget exposing the real 19 terrorists-they are having a ball :^(

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  8. Robert Mueller, and former Atty. Gen. Ashcroft, as well as Alberto Gonzales, all need to be tried for HIGH TREASON and then summarily 'hanged' once they are convicted, which they most assuredly would be, based on the evidence of their conspiracy to destroy the United States and it's Constitution, which they swore to uphold and defend, in their Oath of Office.

    When the day comes they are tried, I hope the U.S. has the guts to televise the hangings on world-wide television, so that people can see what happens when you mass murder, torture, and foment and trigger illegal wars of aggession against nations who have not harmed you.

    I want to live long enough to see Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, Condoleeza Rice, Steven Cambone, David Addington, Colin Powell, and Gen. Richard C. Myers and the rest of NORAD, dangling right next to their 'fuhrer', George H. Bush.

    if this is not done, there is not a nation in the world that is safe from these filth. Not one.

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  9. If they get hanged & destroyed in the revolution, so must members of Congress like Lieberman, Kohl, Kyl and Sessions as far as I'm concerned.

    If you don't punish all Zionists they will do it again, & wreck everything in sight. Not "The Jews" no, but the Zionists Moslem, Christain, Israeli you bet. This crime must be overturned.

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  10. Thanks to the last commenter for clarifying terms - these "trigger words";
    Jewish, Zionist, Israeli, Christian, Moslem, all have denotations and connotations. If we can agree on their denotations, then have a discussion using our agreed definitions, perhaps we can avoid the obfuscation to rational discourse spawned by their negative connotations.

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  11. Yes excellent point.

    We realize that the "Zionist" movement entails essentially colonizing stolen land because your people are the "chosen people" and are excused for doing what amounts to imperialist ethnic cleansing of everyone else.

    That does not limit itself to Jews or ethnic groups. All types of sociopaths are Zionist Neocons, and join this movement, from the ethnic cleansing of the aboriginee indians to the palestinians. From Farhad Zakaria, Douglas Feith and Tony Blair the Zioscum OPENLY DEFEND the bombing of Croatia and Palestine and the Middle East to uphold their racist ideal.

    They're all criminals, dare I say worthy of a hanging? The same movement which runs the Israel backed MIC is basically the 9-11 killers.

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  12. Israeli 'Mossad' involvement in 9/11 cannot ever be doubted now that there is so much information about the 'dancing israelis' and the 'bogus' moving firm that the U.S. treasury paid nearly half a million dollars to, for the 'demolition' done that day. Why the decision was made to let them flee back to Israel, is not a mystery, either. Robert Mueller had to have known where this trail would lead, how it would have unraveled the whole entire conspiracy, had those guys been put under sodium pentothal and asked questions. I don't believe in torture, but I do believe in physician monitored and administered pentothal injections of suspects in cases of high-treason and or mass murder.

    George Bush, Silverstein, Securacom, Marvin Bush, Dov Zackheim, Elliot Abrams, Scooter Libby, Richard Cheney, and at the very least, Richard C. Myers of the J.C.S. were involved in this plot, along with the Israeli Intelligence Service or MOSSAD. How many other co-conspirators there were, such as high ranking government officials such as Phil Zelikow and former Attorney General Ashcroft, as well as potentially Alberto Gonzales and a few others at DoJ, all are certainly implicated in this, with maybe half a dozen boys from Central Intelligence, such as Howard Krongard. I think once we get the full and comprehensive handle on the folks who had actual planning level knowledge of this treason, the list is likely to be less than 50 persons total. Others would disagree, but due to Cheney's extensive use of 'exercises' on that day, that in and of itself probably allowed only a small number of operations officers in NORAD the ability to direct the murder from the skies. It is believe that due to recently discovered records that show that the radar data from the N.E.A.D.S. (Northeast Air Defense Sector) was 'delayed' nearly 26 seconds, for what is presumed to be 'target culling and removal' from the video prior to shipping it to the rest of the sectors, that the E-4B seen over washington, D.C. that day was the 'de facto' airborne command center for the entire operation, and onboard, no more than two or three officers were in charge of doing all of the necesary target removal and running of the exercise to the degree necessary to destroy the buildings.

    more information as to the actual nature of the plot have come to light in the last year than perhaps any other period in time.

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  13. To anonymous apr 11, 2009 at 1:23,

    Your point about Sodium P for interrogation - I wonder if there are issues with self-incrimination since people have the right to remain silent, and administration of the drug would remove their ability to exercise that right?

    Just a thought. What do you think?

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  14. actually you're right about the self-incrimination thing, but there needs to be a law passed that, in this one special instance, such as incredibly high crimes as TREASON and MASS MURDER, there has to be a way to get at the truth without torture. I'm very much on the side of civil liberties, but we now are deeply down a slope where officials routinely will 'lie' under oath, and therefore their testimony, when it can be had, is so unlikely to contain any significant truth in it, that a method of getting the truth has to be implemented. otherwise, we get the never ending stonewalling, and lying, and not one iota of meaningful truth. mere polygraphing of people is not sufficient, as pathological liars, as we have had no shortage of in the government lately, could easily subvert the intent of the polygraph test, as most of them have spent years not telling the truth to anyone, and are pretty 'guilless' about how they lie.

    but I hear where you are with Sodium P. it's a bit draconian, but it's very effective. it gets the subject to tell the truth.

    and in this crime, we really need the truth. with the John F. Kennedy assassination, prominent key figures such as George H.W. Bush, who 'lied' about his presence in Dallas that day, but had later been exposed to have 'lied' later in declassified documents, which, though heavily redacted, exposed the lack of truth in his statements about his involvement in the plot to murder a President.

    we can't count on good will or honor any longer, and the judicial system is so seriously broken, we really have to maybe have one little clause where the Sodium Pentothal administration to a suspect in a TREASON case, is not flippantly applied, but legally done without destroying the 5th. Amendment of the Constitution.

    if we don't do something, we won't have any way of ever getting the truth. these liars will carry it to the grave. and we cannot survive as a nation if HIGH TREASON is allowed to go unpunished.

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  15. and lastly about the Pentothal, I think the 5th. amendment should be 'non-existent' for anyone in high political office, by virtue of the extreme criminality we have seen in recent years. They, by their actions, are much more likely to embezzle money, take bribes, initiate wars, order murders (Sy Hersh re: Dick Cheney) and other illegal acts, and by the very nature of their jobs, feel pretty impervious or invulnerable to standard prosecutorial rules and procedures.

    so yep, in the case of public officials, you bet, use as much Pentothal as is warranted to get the truth. if they want the job so bad, they can sign a 'waiver' of their 5th. amendment rights, as they seem to have no problem completely ignoring the part of their Sworn Oath's of Office regarding the safeguarding and protection of the U.S. Constitution.

    if we don't do this, we can pretty much forget about ever getting the truth out of any politician or public official. and this does not exclude a sitting President of the United States, if he or she is accused of HIGH TREASON by a Grand Jury or Impeachment hearing.

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  16. I've heard the Sodium P idea from many people - you are not alone. I am personally against the death penalty for any reason. Maybe I'm not tough enough, but killing anyone or anything never brings anyone back from the grave. These are difficult questions. Treason is a big one - I know they applied the death penalty to spies during the American Revolutionary War.

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  17. well, the Rosenbergs were 'murdered' by death penalty for allegedly 'spying', and believe it or not, I actually do not support the death penalty in nearly every single case EXCEPT public official corruption. And my 'exception' for public officials goes to this argument strictly: if you are a public official, you have much more of a chance to aggregiously harm many more others than the average serial killer might have the ability to harm or kill. and though this sounds antithetical to a person that has as I have stated that the death penalty is 'wrong', the reason that the HIGH CRIMES and TREASON exception truly needs to be considered, is that we probably have seen more than 50 years of incredible criminality by C.I.A. personnel, and politicians, and all branches of law enforcement, so much moreso than we've seen in the combined murder toll for all capital crimes of murder in the history of the U.S., 'radically exceeded' in the 'proxy murder' numbers done by a handful of politicians and O.S.S. / C.I.A. people now. Where I am going with this is that the deterrence effect of capitial punishment typically doesn't work for the average run of the mill 'murderer' out there, be he or she a pre-meditated killer, or a 'in the heat of anger' type. With regard to politicians and public officials, had there been a very strictly adhered to statute that MANDATED capital punishment for illegal incursions into other countries, misuse of government assets and soldiers for illegal wars, and what have you, we probably wouldn't have seen these guys in this last 'mis' administration as I call it, doing so much horriffic, nasty shit throughout the world.

    I think if we do the death penalty for HIGH TREASON and HIGH CRIMES such as MASS MURDER, TORTURE, and ILLEGAL WAR MONGERING, then strictly stick to that, the number of wars and mass murders and torture authorizations we see from that point on will diminish to a pretty small number.

    but I get your point. I don't like the death penalty. It's put more 'innocent' people out of this world than perhaps it's prevented more killing. And, to be more to the point about the real to the core reason for not condoning it generally, is that our system is so 'broken' that unless you are very wealthy, you are likely to be railroaded or hastily prosecuted or 'set up' and be murdered by the State for a crime you didn't do.

    but otherwise, for HIGH TREASON and HIGH CRIMES, once it's clear that a good solid conviction is acquired, then HANGING or FIRING SQUAD is the way to deal with them. None of this lethal injection shit. We need to make it as ugly and repugnant as possible. Drawing and quartering over a fire ant hill in the Texas or New Mexico sun would be fine with me, even if it took hours for a convicted politician or public official to die like that. No just going to sleep. That's way too merciful for scum that has harmed so very many people, either directly, or by proxy, with their policies. And it should be televised, to make it crystal clear to everyone that the punishment was indeed carried out.

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  18. a quick note of applicable laws for them to be held accountable to, also:

    In this last 46 years, we've had so many breaches of not only U.S. statutes, but of international agreements and treaties we have been signatories to. In all fairness, to make a politician sign his or her rights under the 5th. amendment is just fine with me, they seem to have no problem with forcing guys like me to piss in a bottle before I can even take a new job, so I think that not only should politicians be held to accountability for our own laws, but every significant prevailing, binding treaty or article the U.S. has either been a signatory to, or not. Like the Rome Accord, for instance, covering the punishment of International War Criminals. Though the U.S. purposely did not sign that thing, it nonetheless is applicable to everyone else in the world, and makes sense to make U.S. politicians toe that line as well. I can just see all the right wing fucks out there having a cow over this; "oh god, we can't do that, where is our SOVEREIGNTY then??" bullshit attack against that one. Well, the earth is too small a place for Interpol alone to police, and we actually need a global agreement, not a New World Order, but an 'agreement' that stipulates what is lawful, reasonable behavior on the part of nations and their officials. And that agreement has to be punishable by DEATH if it is not adhered to. Otherwise, you have jackasses like in this past administration (and apparently in this new one) that can, at will, dictate which laws they like to abide by, and which ones they don't want to adhere to, such as the Geneva Conventions, for instance, and statutes that prohibit TORTURE. We just saw Obama thumb his nose at everyone over this prosecution of TORTURE ORDERERS in our own government. This cannot be this way. So, to amplify that last statement, any public official that makes decisions on a National level, really should sign a very complex, very well explained and understood by them, decree, that, in-effect, makes them aware of the fact that INTERNATIONAL LAWS are applicable and that they can and will be extradited to other nations to stand trial if they breach these agreements.

    enough of my high horse for a bit. Hope I haven't offended anyone. If I scared or pissed off a politician, that's tough noogies, I'm afraid. RULE OF LAW is RULE OF LAW. We can't have a planet that is out of control with this 'cowboy law' shit going on. It won't work. We won't make it into the next millenia if we don't clean up our act, globally.

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  19. Anonymous commenter April 11, 2009, 11:50:

    Please stay on your "high horse" because you are speaking for so many people who choose to remain silent or are simply ignorant.

    We need MORE people talking like you - not fewer. As far as people being offended I think perhaps they need to quit allowing themselves to be offended.

    Stix and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.

    I must admit I deleted one comment where somebody kept spouting hatred of Jews.

    I've said some things critical of Israeli policy - so what? What about the 1/2 of the population of Israel (so I've been told) mostly Jewish?, who disagree with the policy of their country? Is it fair to hate them for the policies that ultimately result from the political policy of their country that doesn't represent them? Of course not.

    Anyway - thank you for your participation and please continue. As long as everyone keeps talking I think we can fix things. Once the talking stops - well - that's where the problems begin.

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  20. Thank You, Jack Rabbit! I think that if people come in here and genuinely want to fix this mess, we can in the aggregate, find the solutions even if we don't all unanimously see 'eye to eye' about it all. there was once a time when the United Nations was supposed to be the body that dealt with this stuff, but it's become more of a country club for career 'ex' politico's to hang out and draw a paycheck, rather than using the Security Council to go after cases of criminal behavior that spill out onto everyone's shores and kill them.

    What I foresee in the future is a highly skilled, competent, trained force of commando's, drawn from a whole host of nations, with a limited service time of no more than maybe '4' years, where this group of 'commando's or 'international cops' sole job is to be able to mount up their PC-12 Pilatus, heavily modified to deal with short strips and with countermeasures to make radar detection rather 'problematic' to virtually everyone, and have this team be able to fly into any country on earth, go in, grab the 'criminal' be he or she a senator, or the President perhaps, and get their butt out to a safe, secure location, to stand trial once they are indicted for HIGH CRIMES and or MASS MURDER / TORTURE. and, to guarantee the efficacy of that, each country MUST allow a special 'liason' to operate in the Air Defense system, with their whole goal to be there to tell the host country; "we're going to run this extraction today, you are not going to interfere with us" and then give that sole person the ability to override the commander of that facility if necessary, to get this job done.

    in-effect, we need a very elite, impartial, very carefully screened and vetted 'international commando team' who's sole purpose in life is to 'deliver' for trial, international war criminals.

    and we need a body like the U.N. to MANDATE THE UNIVERSAL PARTICIPATION IN THIS PROGRAM!

    with enough work on the details, such a 'team' would really make it impossible for a scumbag politician to 'hide' somewhere. And, recruiting for this organization would be so selective, that only the highest ethics would be acceptable, or you don't get to join, and this means, a whole lifetime to that point worth of demonstrated HIGH ETHICS or you're not even in the running for this job.

    if we do this, we'll have a safer world. and it could be implemented in less than 5 years or so if everyone signed onto it.

    of course, the impediment would be the 'crooked' regimes. such as the one we have now, and the one before it, and before that one, etc... We have to find a way to force the issue. Kind of like the man from "The Day The Earth Stood Still", his little robot destroyer of worlds if the world doesn't toe the line. We can do it with human beings. No SKYNET needed.

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  21. Anonymous April 12, 2009 12:24

    I think the Constitution is clear - I am not a fan of the UN concept because it seems to me we in the US have the superior system - so if we are to get involved with other countries I'd prefer they apply for statehood and live under the written Constitution of the US - don't forget the BILL OF RIGHTS.

    However, as Franklin said when asked what kind of govt. they came up with = "A republic -if you can keep it"
    JR
    The key is that we must have a nation of citizens, not consumers. Right now, we have consumers. Uneducated, uninvolved, and uninterested consumers.

    Our American system, in my opinion, works - but only if the citizens "keep it" - that's where the problem lies I think.

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  22. I would like to think that the U.S. has a superior system, the one that they handed to us in Philadelphia a long time ago, what, about 236 or some odd years back, was a pretty damned good one, was it not?

    I think that the United States lost it's ability to be trusted with the keys to the 'city' to the degree that, if I were a European citizen, I'd damned sure 'demand' that the rest of the nations form an organization not unlike the Communist Bloc, only without 'communism' in mind, where they all pretty much put the U.S. in the place where it goes like this:

    1.) if you want to be a 'trading' partner, you will abide by our conditions. Get rid of your nuclear weapons. all of them. Downsize your military. (this would not be unilateral, it would be UNIVERSAL) and VERIFIABLE.

    2.) don't do any of this bullshit sabre rattling crap you've been pulling or we won't trade with you anymore.

    3.) let's all do what we can to police ourselves, but make no mistake, don't do this bellicose behavior with us or we'll nip that crap in the bud and turn off your trading partner rights in a New York second.

    4.) don't print funny money. stop. no more.

    5.) do your share of resource conservation, don't assume the oil under Iraq's sand is YOUR OIL. It's not. Neither is anyone elses.

    6.) Treat the rest of the world with respect.


    --now, having said that, the more important changes come here. the 'consumerism' has to stop, and stop now. also, the ABOLISHMENT OF THE FED must happen. As is the case with the INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE. the 16th. amendment was never ratified, so their taxation mandate is an ILLEGAL ONE. there shall be no USERY of any citizen, in other words.

    and, in our schools, real history gets taught, not this bullshit "washington chopped down the cherry tree but fessed up because he couldn't tell a lie" bullshit. they have to teach GOVERNMENT and CIVICS as if it's a life imperative. And ETHICS.

    we can have a good nation if we make people meet their neighbors and become involved in their communities and the process of town meetings and discussions about laws and how to make the experiment work.

    once we abolish the FED and get the yoke of slavery to the wealthy bankers off of our asses, we can maybe start to financially rebuild the country.

    but it is crystal clear to me that the U.S. must get off this kick of using the stick more than a carrot, and the implied threat of nuclear anhillation and retaliatory might instead of good sound diplomacy.

    if the founding fathers could see us today, I think they'd be weeping. what they gave us is too precious a gift to throw down the toilet, for sure. but, as I said, the United States went so very 'too far' in the past couple of decades, actually nearly '6' of them, that it's not feasible for us to be allowed to just be put on 'good behavior' without someone grading us in a hard way and making US toe the line.

    I don't think the EU is necessarily more 'moral' than we are, but I've travelled extensively in Europe and lived there, and what I see in them is much more of a community spirit than what we have here. WE do indeed need to become more like that to make this over here work.

    we can disagree about the role of a UN like body to govern the world. Nuclear disarmament is absolutely paramount towards making the globe a safer and much more sane place for us to raise our children in.

    it will take every American, getting off their couch, putting away the T.V. clicker, to get there. but we can indeed do it. If I had more faith in our people, I'd say we could do it alone, but I don't see it any longer. I see us badly wounded and de-evolving into something I'm not able to recognize anymore, especially when people I know tell me that "torture" is okay as long as it's the "muslims" we do it to.

    we'll continue this dialogue. I enjoy it, and hopefully more will jump in here.

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  23. FBI oversaw the largest single spasm of slaughter of civilians by law enforcement in US history, when nearly a hundred Branch Davidians died amid an assault by tanks, flame-throwers and snipers."Let's not forget that the FBI helped push the lie at Waco that the Davidians had an illegal drug manufacturing factory in one of their buildings, giving them the excuse they needed to make an end run around the Posse Comitatus Act so they could bring in US Army units, including snipers from the Delta Force and tanks.

    The man in charge of the FBI then? Louis Freeh, who would remain at the FBI until early 2001, where he helped set up and provide cover for the REAL 9/11 perps.

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  24. Ladies and Gents:
    FBI is the personal police force for the executive branch. American myth once again exposed.

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  25. Not to get off te topic,here is a little history--never exposed as the biggest black flag operation that killed over 54 million Europeans,Russians,Arabs ect--WWII
    Here are the facts: England forced German to give up a large portion of sea port lands to Poland.Most folks were German and the Polocks beat and killed many of them to lrave(as in Palestine) England/France over this declared war on Germany.Hitler wanted peace with England at all costs.He sent his 2nd top official to England.He was arrested and tortured and never relealed.England sent Lancaster bombers over Germany cities dumping leaflets--get out--your lifes depend on it.
    Now comes the black flag operation--English are dumb-now to get them to support the war.
    Media facts; A lone german bomber plane flies across the English channel on a very foggy night and drops his bomb load.
    Where the bombs dropped, Most of the local folks knew it was phonie balony.
    After this media fear blitz, England started fire bombing German cities to now end. USA started another Black flag operation againist Japan--pearl harbour.Usa folks got the message and allowed USA into WWII.
    FYI: Hitler, Stalin, Churchhill, Roosevelt all WWII criminals had onething in comman--all xjews.Only Hitler kept his Jewish name.
    Germany recently give Israel 7 submarines with capabilties to carry nukes. In our life time WWIII is about to happen. Both WWI WWII were all done to make Palestine homeland for the Jews. If Israel nut'ion is threatened--it will happen. Most of the $trillions disappearing from America are headed to Israel--for the WWIII. Pathological liars--dangerous times.

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  26. The major hurdle to peace is that the politician's career is paramount to our national interests. He is there, contrary to our beliefs, to serve the interests of a few, the elite who is governed by a different set of laws than we commoners are. Also the foreign lobby controlls the politicians and dictates both foreign and domestic policies. The day Americans put an end to this, it wlll be the day that freedom is restored not only in America but throughout the planet.

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  27. The same can be said for the Anthrax attacks about the FBI. We still have no firm answers on who did that, and the town I live in had one of the highest registered reading for Anthrax in my state, I really would like answers - I have children, one who was born as people started entering a local hospital for Anthrax contamination.

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  28. I don't know if any of you have heard that brain wave analysis can indicate if a person is lying.I belive someone was convicted of murder in india? No need of torture.

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  29. the more direct way to tell, is, if it's a 'politician', or an 'attorney' or an F.B.I. or C.I.A. on the payroll person, is to just look at their lips, if they're moving, they're LYING.

    same goes for their writings and diatribes. take any intended meaning of any phrase, turn the consequential outcome about 180 degrees, and you then see 'truth' in what they write.

    there' no mystery about the Anthrax attacks, by the way. That stuff came right straight out of Ft. Detrick, it was highly polished, weaponized Anthrax, not home grown, and it was purposefully released into the U.S. postal system to kill Daschle and Leahy and it got out of hand and also murdered innocent postal employees who had to handle it. There can be little mistake about who did this, as the Whore House bastards were on CIPRO prior to the release of it, therefore, they knew it was going to be shipped into the environment via the U.S. snail mail. The person who ordered the CIPRO prophylaxis for the Whore House staff and inhabitants, is a conduit to the truth if they ever question that person who wrote that directive. It was more governmental MURDER of innocent civilians. IT should be punishable by HANGING when it's fully investigated and prosecuted!

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  30. Steve Jones recently published a rigorously peer-reviewed paper in an important Chemistry journal publishing his evidence that the dust around the 9/11 Trade Center site still contains small chips of unexploded Termite. The fact that the FBI and NIST have refused even to look for such evidence really speaks volumns of complicity on their part. The burdon of proof should have always been on the ridiculous official story riddled with Congressional coverups, ignored evidence, flat out lies, and a logic that makes illogical taffy out of basic physics. Watch out people, because the truth is about to blow.

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  31. the timeline:
    http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a091101ciprocheney


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    Evening, September 11, 2001: White House Staff, Including Cheney’s, Start Taking Anthrax Antibiotic Cipro
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    On the evening after the 9/11 attacks, some White House personnel, including Vice President Dick Cheney’s staff, are given the anti-anthrax drug Cipro, and told to take it regularly. [Associated Press, 10/24/2001] An unnamed “high government official” also advises some reporters to take Cipro shortly after 9/11 (see Shortly After September 11, 2001). Judicial Watch will later sue the Bush administration to release documents showing who knew what and when, and why presidential staff were protected while senators, congresspeople, and others were not. [Associated Press, 6/9/2002]

    Entity Tags: Richard (“Dick”) Cheney, Judicial Watch

    Timeline Tags: 2001 Anthrax Attacks
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    Shortly After September 11, 2001: High Government Official Advises Some Reporters to Take Anthrax Antibiotic Cipro
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    Richard Cohen.Richard Cohen. [Source: Washington Post]Washington Post journalist Richard Cohen will later write: “The [2001 anthrax] attacks were not entirely unexpected. I had been told soon after Sept. 11 to secure Cipro, the antidote to anthrax. The tip had come in a roundabout way from a high government official, and I immediately acted on it. I was carrying Cipro way before most people had ever heard of it.” [Slate, 3/18/2008] He will explain on a different occasion, “On a tip, I asked my doctor early on to prescribe Cipro for me, only to find out that, insider though I thought I was, nearly everyone had been asking him for the same thing.” [Washington Post, 7/22/2004] A number of White House officials begin taking Cipro the evening of September 11, 2001 (see Evening, September 11, 2001). Also, on September 26, well before any reports of real anthrax attacks, New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd will write, “Americans are now confronted with the specter of terrorists in crop dusters and hazardous-waste trucks spreading really terrifying, deadly toxins like plague, smallpox, blister agents, nerve gas and botulism. Women I know in New York and Washington… share information on which pharmacies still have Cipro, Zithromax and Doxycycline, all antibiotics that can be used for anthrax, the way they once traded tips on designer shoe bargains.” [New York Times, 9/26/2001]

    Entity Tags: Richard Cohen, Maureen Dowd

    Timeline Tags: 2001 Anthrax Attacks
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    March 2002: Cheney’s Office Refuses to Disclose Travel Expenditures
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    Vice President Dick Cheney’s office refuses to disclose information about trips taken by its employees that are paid for by private financiers. The rationale is that since the Office of the Vice President (OVP) is not strictly part of the executive branch (see 2003), it need not disclose the information under the laws applying to that branch of the federal government. From this time forward, Cheney’s office repeatedly responds to inquiries by the Office of Government Ethics with letters stating “that it is not obligated to file such disclosure forms for travel funded by non-federal sources,” Kate Sheppard and Bob Williams of the Center for Public Integrity will write in 2005. “The letters were signed by then-Counsel to the Vice President David Addington…. Addington writes that the Office of the Vice President is not classified as an agency of the executive branch and is therefore not required to issue reports on travel, lodging and related expenses funded by non-federal sources.” Judicial Watch’s Tom Fitton will say that Cheney and his staff believe “the vice president is a constitutional office that is not subject to the laws that others in the executive branch are.” [Center for Public Integrity, 11/16/2005]

    Entity Tags: David S. Addington, Bob Williams, Center for Public Integrity, Judicial Watch, Kate Sheppard, Tom Filton, Office of the Vice President, Richard (“Dick”) Cheney

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    July 17, 2003: Documents from Cheney Energy Task Force Released; Maps, Charts of Iraqi Oil Fields Included
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    Map of Iraqi oil fields included in released documents.Map of Iraqi oil fields included in released documents. [Source: Judicial Watch]The conservative government watchdog group Judicial Watch releases documents recently turned over by the US Commerce Department through a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request. The documents show some of the activities of the secretive energy task force chaired by Vice President Dick Cheney (the National Energy Policy Development Group—see May 16, 2001). Cheney and the White House successfully blocked Congress from learning even the most basic information about the task force’s activities (see January 30, 2002). The Commerce Department documents include maps of Iraqi oil fields and oil infrastructure, and other charts showing Iraqi oil and gas projects, and a document entitled “Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield Contracts.” Other maps and documents show detailed information about oil fields and infrastructure in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. All of the documents are dated March 2001. Judicial Watch has sought these documents under FOIA since April 2001, and only secured them after a federal judge ordered their release in March 2002. (The Judicial Watch lawsuit was consolidated with a similar suit from the Natural Resources Defense Council.) Why the government waited over a year to release the documents, even after a court order compelling them to do so, is unclear. “These documents show the importance of the Energy Task Force and why its operations should be open to the public,” says Judicial Watch’s Tom Fitton. “This was not about national security. This was about an undersecretary talking to a lobbyist.” [Judicial Watch, 7/17/2003; Judicial Watch, 7/17/2003; Dubose and Bernstein, 2006, pp. 14-15] Authors Lou Dubose and Jake Bernstein call the Iraqi oil field documents “stunning,” and ask: “Why were the vice president and a group of oilmen poring over maps of Iraq long before there was any pretext to invade the country? Iraq’s oil was technically embargoed and under UN control—why make plans for divvying up oil reserves?” Dubose and Bernstein believe that Cheney may have been planning for US control of Iraq long before the Bush administration’s public push for war with that nation. Fitton is not so sure, but says worriedly: “We don’t know because we weren’t given the context. We have no way of knowing what they were deliberating.” [Dubose and Bernstein, 2006, pp. 14-15] Judicial Watch, with other public interest groups such as the Sierra Club, will continue to seek information about the Cheney task force (see December 15, 2003 and April 27, 2004).

    Entity Tags: US Department of Commerce, Lou Dubose, Judicial Watch, Jake Bernstein, National Energy Policy Development Group, Natural Resources Defense Council, Richard (“Dick”) Cheney, Tom Fitton, Sierra Club

    Timeline Tags: Bush's Environmental Record

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  32. Any bets,FBI has a German Crypto Jew controlling--what NOT to be investigated?
    Did you catch the new Zionist German Jew Jew--in charge of the USA Airforce?--he is in Israel--getting the timetable to attack Iran.
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  33. I wish commenters would be more specific than simply bashing "Jews" because that general term convicts innocent people who have never done anything. There are good Jewish people and there are bad Jewish people and there are Jewish people in between. Please be specific with language so people can understand your message.

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  34. Brian Trent has recently published a hit piece that insults 9/11 Truthers over a week ago that can be found here:
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  35. FBI and politics are hand in hand..people can't argue..we just need to watch what ever they do..I will leave all these to Obama!

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  36. ..the first words I spoke when I saw the 9-11 reality show on 'live' televison: 'This is a Mossad operation'.

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    Any questions?

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  37. Absemnt on forensics but not absent for the cover-up and being men-in-waiting for the genetic slag above.

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  38. The Mossad had representation but this was not a 'Mossad job'. Ask the actual builders instead of anybody else and get the truth out of them. They are really sweating these days.

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